2008 NFL Draft as it happens Round 4

[Aeyjay]

Balls i would have liked us to pick Red Bryant

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23(122) - Dallas Cowboys (from Cleveland) - Tashard Choice (RB, Georgia Tech)

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24(123) - New York Giants (from Pittsburgh) - Bryan Kehl (LB, BYU)

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25(124) - Washington Redskins (from Tennessee) - Justin Tryon (CB, Arizona State)

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26(125) - Oakland Raiders (from Jacksonville through Baltimore) - Arman Shields (WR, Richmond)

[jonesbonesy]

Arman Sheilds WR another Al Davis pick. Sub 4.40 40 yd run.
Overview
A native of Washington, D.C., Shields enrolled at Richmond after leading his high school team to its first conference championship in 2002.



Also a member of the track team in high school, Shields has been timed in under 4.50 seconds in the 40-yard dash, which certainly caught the eye of professional scouts.



Shields finished his Spiders career with seven 100-yard receiving performances in 37 games. He's second in school history with 160 career receptions, sixth with 1,930 yards and eight with 13 touchdowns.


Career Notes
Finished his career second all-time in catches (160), sixth in yards (1,930) and tied for eighth in touchdowns (13). Shields surpassed the 100-yard receiving mark seven times in his 37-game career.

[Gazzara]

so, now the big question is, where the hell are we going to get lineman to fill our holes from?  All well and good going for a fast offense to rack up the points but if are d is giving them up then we are in trouble.  I am not talking secondary here but back are going to be all over us and also our oline not exactly protecting our QB enough to settle him in properly.

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27(126) - Tennessee Titans (from Dallas) - Lavelle Hawkins (WR, California)

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28(127) - Indianapolis Colts - Jacob Tamme (TE, Kentucky)

[jonesbonesy]

Branch and Sheilds are Al Davis picks. fastest players on the board. Branch was a Returner and by the look of it will be Carr's replacment. Plus he is good against the run and can play free safety. So I can see the branch pick. As for Sheilds we need wrs.

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29(128) - St Louis Rams (from Green Bay) - Keenan Burton (WR, Kentucky)

[jonesbonesy]

Armon Shields
Positives: Has a lean, angular frame with good muscle tone and is much stronger than his appearance indicates … Possesses a good combination of quickness and strength … Willing backside blocker with good body control moving over the middle … Seems more comfortable working in the short area and has issues tracking the ball on long patterns … Not sudden off the snap, but builds to top speed in a hurry … Has the body control, balance and footwork to stem and leverage a defender, doing a nice job of setting up his short-area routes … Best when settling underneath, as he uses his hands well to swat away defenders and shield the ball from defenders … Alert to the sideline and works hard to keep his feet going for the throws on the perimeter … Shows just adequate pop coming out of his cuts, but has a knack for getting open in the short area by executing decent double moves (has problems on long routes) … Seems more comfortable getting to the ball on intermediate and controlled routes … Willing to sacrifice his body to get to the ball in a crowd … Knows how to find the soft spot in the zone and has the body control to make the tough catches in traffic … Attacks the ball aggressively and shows the leg drive to break tackles with the body lean to gain extra yardage falling forward … Works hard to face up to defenders when blocking for the running game … Has confidence using his stiff arm in attempts to separate … Demonstrates good arm extension blocking from the backside and is very effective taking angles and going low in his pads to cut block.

Negatives: Has a knee injury that limited him to just three games in 2007 and further medical evaluation is needed … Best when catching the ball in stride, as despite his vertical jump, he does not time his leaps well or extend for the ball at its high point … Has the valid speed to be a deep threat, but has dropped a lot of balls on those routes due to an inability to track the ball in flight (struggles to turn his head and look the ball in over his outside shoulder) … Has had concentration issues that have led to drops of easily catchable throws … Needs more than a few reps to retain plays and is not capable of digesting a complicated playbook … Has good timed speed, but fails to use it, as he lacks the sudden burst you look for coming off the snap … Gets caught up in the jam, as he shows too much wasted arm motion in attempts to get a clean release … Has good straight-line speed, but needs to sink his pads better in order to make crisp cuts out of his breaks … Does not show the strong burst needed to separate from defenders after the catch … Has to improve his hand-eye coordination (especially on post patterns) and while he has strength to power through arm tackles, he would be much more effective in his attempts to escape if he can develop much better head fakes and open his hips better … Quick off the line, but needs to show better crispness in and out of his breaks … Lets the ball absorb into his body too much, lacking the soft, natural hands needed to extend, pluck and snatch away from his frame … Makes plays with his athletic ability, not field savvy.

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30(129) - New England Patriots - Jonathan Wilhite (CB, Auburn)

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31(130) - Pittsburgh Steelers (from NY Giants) - Tony Hills (OT, Texas)

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32(131) - Philadelphia Eagles (Compensatory) - Jack Ikegwuonu (CB, Wisconsin)